Denis Hinojosa ZeballosDenis Hinojosa Zeballos https://facebook.com/denis.hinojosazeballos Sat 00:13 Great advice Do you have any NACE certification? because on that side of the world there are other types of certifications I refused to join NACE decades ago and was involved with the founder of ICorr in the UK and that was taken over by a bunch of cowboys we have a unique certification system that is not a scam that's good, in BOLIVIA there are very few people interested in what is asset integrity We are only 10 people certified in cathodic protection with NACE NACE certification is not worth the paper it is written on what happens is that now many new projects are built, but they have not yet foreseen what will happen in the future and there are only 10 intelligent people who have noticed, and unfortunately there is nothing more than NACE that is recognized in Bolivia despite NACE does not arrive in Bolivia there is a vacuum that we are filling globally we must also help countries like Venezuela who are under financial seige by the money lenders in the USA in BOLIVIA you are almost a God with this certification I also agree that they overestimate many things, even when they perform engineering in their Cp4 manual NACE always publish a legal disclaimer with their stuff! this was paointed out to me by a NACE 4 engineer in South Africa NACE know they are teaching crap if it's a shame, there are also many people from Venezuela who came to Bolivia and it's a shame how they live we are scientists and engineers so we only obey the laws of science...... forget the money and the politics yes but as you say this is a great monopoly it's a good initiative on your part to have created this group the internet and social media has broken the monopoly and changed everything Type a message... Denis Hinojosa ZeballosDenis Hinojosa Zeballos https://facebook.com/denis.hinojosazeballos Denis Hinojosa Zeballos11/12/2017 01:35 why do you want to join this serious group? You give no information about yourself. Who are you and where are you? What country are you in? 11/12/2017 03:44Denis Hinojosa Zeballos accepted your request. Hi Roger I want to join this group because I am Certified for NACE as Cathodic Protection Technician and PCIM (to complete), I also have other certifications related as CWI, NDTs, ASTM, SSPC and other related with asset integrity. I’m from Bolivia. Regards 11/12/2017 09:28 Thank you Denis and welcome to Cathodic Protection Network http://www.pipeline-corrosion-control.com/ I have added your name to each of the groups you requested Thanks to you Roger I am preparing a page on my website for Bolivia and you are welcom to contribute..... have a look through the website and I will send you the address of the page as soon as I have uploaded it. http://www.pipeline-corrosion-control.com/00countries/Bolivia/bolivia.htm have a look and send me comments if you want to join in lso you can become a member of Cathodic Protection Network by completing Module 01 of our on line course and sending me your report with proof of your practical work 11/12/2017 12:50 Ok, How much time do I have to take module 1 and present the report? That is up to you..... as much time as it takes for you to understand it all and to complete the small amount of practical work. You will need a multi-meterof your own module 01 is free as it ia the basis of all understanding 11/12/2017 20:59 I have been reviewing your page, and I want to congratulate you, your information is very organized and very valuable. Thank you if you send me your CV I will open a folder for you so that you can join in our efforts roger.alexander3@ntlworld.com there are hundreds of us working on various parts of this project You need my CV in English, because I do not have it in English, you could give me until the weekend and I do the translation. I have a doubt but I hope not to disturb, but where is the module 01 http://www.pipeline-corrosion-control.com/CorrespondenceCourse/ http://www.pipeline-corrosion-control.com/CorrespondenceCourse/Module01/index.html Ok thanks Roger there are several pages.... follow the link buttons 12/12/2017 00:57 I use Google translate if you send your CV in text we are global... Iget CV's in all languages Ok ?? we all need to get to know each other as we work together 12/12/2017 20:56 Hi Roger, I send my CV to email that you send me yesterday your email has just arrived .... thanks Ok Thanks Roger I have created a page for Bolivia on our website and would like you to contribute in any way you can. We are not accepting 'investments' so I mean contribute in effort http://www.pipeline-corrosion-control.com/00countries/Bolivia/bolivia.htm read the web page and welcome to Cathodic Protection Network do you write HTML? (web page design language) no, but I can learn I will file your CV in my system Ok it is easy.... if I can do it anyone can..... har ahr har har what browser dod you use? I will be programmed but not web pages Chrome OK Chrome is easy I will check how you get into page source using Chrome Ok thanks I will also look for information about it you have to look for 'page surce' in 'developer tools' I know how to enter the source code of a web page, but I do not know much about configuration have a look at the source code in my web pages I use simple basic HTML as it works on all browsers my Idea is that everyone can contribute and draw benefits from their contribution you can have your own page on our website I will give you the upload name and password once you have the idea in chrome you simply right click the page to open the page source in a new window.... you will see exactly how I wrote it 13/12/2017 00:2013/12/2017 01:25 I do not use a smart phone as it would be too much traffic for me to handle I have hundreds of discussions concurrently and track each one saved in text in each folder. This would be impssible on a phone. If I am reviewing, I learn fast so I will not have problems, once you understand how you wrote the source code I will notice what change or information I can add. I feel we will progress together as friends you have an extensive CV and there are many like you in CPN who will be invincible when networking together the software development will bind us all with FACTs and not opinions http://www.pipeline-corrosion-control.com/academic/DynamicElectronics/stage1/ Well, I feel very happy because you consider me part of your network of passionate professionals in this area that is so interesting. Mon 10:37 I have spoken to Valdir yesterday and told him that you are our coordinator in Bolivia and that you two should connect and discuss everything about CPN My main connection with Valdir is Skype valdiregd1 is his Skype name mobile +551291465600 I have suggested that we use the following linked pages as a starting poine for our global project http://www.pipeline-corrosion-control.com/Training/MasterClasses/ and we discussed the project based on the notes at the following link http://www.pipeline-corrosion-control.com/ActionPlan/0000manufacture.htm as you will see in the 3 day seminar pages we need a complete team in each country so you will be passing on all this information to whoever you want to be involved in Bolivia good morning Roger, how many people do we need to complete each team??? what happens is that not many people speak English in Bolivia and the language is complicated for them you will see that I have put Google translate widget on almost all of pages that I have uploaded you will need a professional for each of the activities described in the paster class notes Ok these will need to be pwople who have the power and money to make decisions and also some scientists and technical people to scrutinise everything you can coordinate everything in Bolivia at your own disgression as each country is different in many ways Ok I have notified Achraf Zouari in Tunisia and will be notifying others all over tha world in the next fe hours I will start sending invitations for people of interest to commit to work as a team we can use our 'global corrosion audit' as a foot in the door to talk to all in power I leave it to you guys to create and questionaires you feel will be effective if we all let each other know of progress we can move forward at an exponential rate Roger is fine, I will try to find people who really commit to this work, just as a comment the subject of corrosion is not a strong subject in my country, it is not as requested as in other countries there is a low interest. However, there are always people who have an interest in changing things. we need to first find out the real COST of corrosion and relate it to real data everyone is interested in money so lets get some real facts together nit NACE bullshit what would be the cost if the main Bolivia to Brazil pipeline had to close down because of a leak? I would say that would be a big problem I recently worked in the closing of a gas collection plant, and tell you that they are abandoning pipelines without leaving the pipelines protected with cathode protection the company that controls the plant is vintage petroleum that is part of OXY, they are from the USA but do not comply with what their codes say, Bolivia does not have regulations on this, but it does have a decree law that indicates that it must be protected with catodica protection, there is still much to do in Bolivia. It is good that you gather all information possible so that we have a 'big picture' of the situation in Bolivia that we can know how reality effects the rich and their own cash flow. The american multinationals are in big financial trouble and we must present a way out in which they hand their problems to us multi national generally do not give a shit about codes of practice ..... they are governed by big bucks in their own personal pockets I also think the same because I've been living our time has now come!..... lets make sure we do a better job with saying that they do not clean the right of way of the pipeline, and to measure potentials in the test stations one has to walk at least 46 km in places where the temperature reaches 42 degrees Celsius and is a mountainous terrain It's true, things always have to change for the better and not go in reverse. this is common all over the world and pipelines are leaking as a result the only way to change things is from the bottom up you need to include pictures and such facts in your audit so that we can impact on the global audience It is a good idea ?? 16:10 Roger good morning, I have a group of 5 people confirmed to start the project all Bolivians, they were slow to respond but they are doing it, all are in places with difficult access to communicate, send the invitation to 15 people all specialists in the area of ??corrosion , there are many who did not even review the invitation because they are in the field. 17:22 What is the next step??? 19:58 Cathodic Protection Network Bolivia I have just started this group for you on facebook get all your contacts to join the group so that they can stay connected through their mobile phones or laptops I have invited you to join and will make you the admin as soon as your name appears 21:11 I did not get the invitation, and I do not find it as Cathodic Protection Network Bolivia in Facebook I found it and send the request 22:17 this is the beauty of the internet Ok Roger, I'll send the invitations right now. you are now admin of the group and I leave it to you to manage it you can add a good picture Ok thanks Roger and do what you like but get everyone chatting and get everyone to know each other as people with all their personal troubles that way we can REALLY work together I also intend to work with all the people that make up this group, sharing experiences is always good. and here I am to help in everything I can and be within my reach excellent.... I will link each person to the Bolivia pages on my web domain and you can all send me anything you want to upload in your names as your own global publication with your own copuright to the content http://www.pipeline-corrosion-control.com/00countries/Bolivia/bolivia.htm have a look at this link as I will be doing the same thing for you as coodinator in Bolivia ....... http://www.pipeline-corrosion-control.com/00countries/Canada/coordinator.htm I will start work on this now ... if you and your team have any suggestions or comments they are welcome I learned to program in html a little at least I know how to write and add images, how can I help with this? you certainly can!!! please! have a look at the source code of me site and you will see that I use very basic html I will try to do something in Word this weekend and send it to you to see if you approve it to upload it on the page. use text as we can then easily convert it to html Ok if we get raport I will give you the upload codes and user name I use a free ftp client Filezilla client do you know how to upload etc Within the videos that I still see, I did not see anything similar, but today I will investigate about it Pipeline Corrosion Control






In real science there is no such thing as a half-cell but there is a 'half-cell reaction' and the words 'half -cell' have been borrowed by pseudo scientists and opportunist 'cowboys and Charlatans who inhabit the world of cathodic protection' according to a report to the directors of Shell International in the mid 1970's.

If you look to the root of this misnomer you see a laboratory arrangement referred to as DIN 50918 in which a measurement is made in controlled closed circuit conditions in which two reaction potentials are compared.

One is the reaction of hydrogen to platinum and the other is the reaction of copper to a saturated solution of it's own salts. This measurement can be used to ascertain when equilibrium has been reached with no current flowing and therefore no metal is going into solution according to Faraday.
If this equilibrium is due to an external influence on the potential of the electrolyte at it's interface with the metal then corrosion has indeed been controlled by that external influence.
Corrosion control engineers must have a method to measure this equilibrium at each interface on any structure. To say that to stick a copper/copper-sulphate or silver/silver-chloride electrode at some random place in the corrosion circuit and make a voltage measurement is totally ridiculous and reflects on the mental ability and reasoning power of those that believe it.
It becomes more ridiculous over the years as the proposed 'criterion' for cathodic protection fails over and over again until the highest advisory organisation in the world has no fewer than three suggestions that might be used if the others cannot be met.
The search for a method to justify this stupidity has resulted in yet another scientific approach being bastardized. This proposal was made by a laboratory in the Nederlands to which I was invited in the 1970's to witness a demonstration of the 'immediate off' potential measurement. I was then asked to try this method out in the field in Nigeria and reported that it is impossible to replicate in any way for field use because of a number of substantial difficulties that were impossible to resolve.

I therefore devized an arrangement of coupons that could be used as electrodes to measure the actual corrosion current and relative potentials of the electromotive forces at the interfaces with the electrolyte.
This corrosion cell can be used in conjuction with the standard copper/copper-sulphate electrode to ascertain if corrosion has been stopped at each location at the time of the test.
This fact can then be related to so called 'pipe-to-soil potential measurements' recorded historically to extropolate the real corrosion status of the pipeline or structure. The arrangement was named the Alexander Cell by Tim ffrench-Mullens the founder of the Institute of Corrosion Science and Technology in the UK tha has been claimed to be the forerunner of the present Institute of Corrosion (ICorr.)

An Alexander Cell is in design stages for use in water but the on-sure general purpose model is now widely and successfully used but denied by the psuedo scientists who realise that it exposes their basic theoretical designs and procedure as rubbish.














this is the source code to the first page of my site the translate widget is on most of my pages and works well take your time and get used to the protocol and we will take it from there if you have a software engineer in your team you should get him/her involved as soon as imepossible as this will be big t big time we will involve Google Earth and Microsoft as well as possible Oracle and other big time software houses I will be in town this month and I already saw web programming courses, I will take some that could be used to upload information to the website a guy like you can learn like I did.... you do not need a course there are loads of guides on line and you can download Filezilla for free and follow the instructions... I will help if you ask when we are up and running we will have a software team and they can be webmasters as part of their function the multi-nationals must pay us up front so as soon as we have run the first international seminar and master class we will be well funded have you read that link? that's a good idea, yes I have read the link http://www.pipeline-corrosion-control.com/Training/MasterClasses/ Valdir is up for running it in Brazil and including the training center at Guararema I saw some publications and the training center in Brazil, you also organize courses in Brazil http://www.pipeline-corrosion-control.com/Guararema/Brochure/ yes and these have been approved by Petrobras Wow for this first seminar we need a few university professors present that's why NACE does not have as much influence in Brazil I am trying to find time to set up coordinators in Saudi Arabia and the gulf states and will be inviting them NACE has corrupted Petrobras but we can break their hold now that corruption is being investigated we will be inviting NACE members and officials to everything I give basic courses of measurement in my city, we could see to organize something in Bolivia that would be great! have you read the pages on DCVG and CIPS? they are way above the heads of NACE http://www.pipeline-corrosion-control.com/ProcHTML/DCVG/index.htm I did not read everything, but this weekend I will take advantage as I start my 1 month vacation http://www.pipeline-corrosion-control.com/ProcHTML/proc6.htm that's great..... my life is one long vacation...... at 79 it has to be! A lifetime, is a person with a long career. and everything you share is very interesting if life is not fun you are not doing it right Great advice Do you have any NACE certification? because on that side of the world there are other types of certifications I refused to join NACE decades ago and was involved with the founder of ICorr in the UK and that was taken over by a bunch of cowboys we have a unique certification system that is not a scam that's good, in BOLIVIA there are very few people interested in what is asset integrity We are only 10 people certified in cathodic protection with NACE what happens is that now many new projects are built, but they have not yet foreseen what will happen in the future and there are only 10 intelligent people who have noticed, and unfortunately there is nothing more than NACE that is recognized in Bolivia despite NACE does not arrive in Bolivia NACE certification is not worth the paper it is written on there is a vacuum that we are filling globally we must also help countries like Venezuela who are under financial seige by the money lenders in the USA in BOLIVIA you are almost a God with this certification I also agree that they overestimate many things, even when they perform engineering in their Cp4 manual NACE always publish a legal disclaimer with their stuff! this was paointed out to me by a NACE 4 engineer in South Africa NACE know they are teaching crap if it's a shame, there are also many people from Venezuela who came to Bolivia and it's a shame how they live we are scientists and engineers so we only obey the laws of science...... forget the money and the politics yes but as you say this is a great monopoly it's a good initiative on your part to have created this group the internet and social media has broken the monopoly and changed everything Type a message...